I already owned a Cleo Olivia in 34HH - but even though Cleo's unpadded bras tend to run a bit large, an HH would no longer cut it:
But, recognizing this bra to be probably the best for my shape, I purchased a sibling of it - the Cleo Meg in a 34J:
I didn't think much of it, as I generally favour padded bras, plus I have a small gripe with especially Cleo... The seem to be overcompensating for the fact that there are many "grandma" bras for large cupped ladies - they are making "little sister" bras! Which is great too, but you know, if they were making bras for me, and me only, they would be different, hehe :b (They would probably all look like the Pananche Idina, which was my perfect combi of elegant and simple... *weeping over the fact that it stops at J*)
But, at least the Cleo Meg was better than the Olivia, which I felt managed to be massively boring and too silly for my taste - the only detailing it has, is the plain pink lace at the top of the cups - everything else is just the silly blue polka dot print.
Well, putting Meg to the test - I have to say, I've never had a better fit!
I've had it for a few weeks now, which has allowed me to try it both when my boobs are at their biggest and smallest, so I here present:
When I'm at my smallest, it's such that I think "Well, it should definitely not be larger" and when I'm at my biggest I think "Eek, slightly too small" - thus, in conclusion, this will fit me great for like, 80% of the month - which is pretty great!
And look at that shape, eh? It's rounded, up-lifted, everything I could list! I'd say it's a good mix of Purple and green shape!
Sure, it's not the "impressive bossom" of an Ewa Michalak bra, but this is really great for everyday wear!
Looking at the measurements, I am also led to believe that the Meg really is great for me.
Namely, the depth - logically, this measurement of the bra should roughly match what your boob measured from cleavage to armpit. Yet, so far, all my bras has been miles smaller than this: My boob-perimeter has been between 17-18", whereas the bras I wear tend to be between 12½-15½". But then Vee of Bratabase posed an interesting theory: If we are to measure the breat perimeter, would it be more accurate if we lay on our backs, and just roll slightly to the side so that the boob is on the chest (rather than spread out to the sides, as they often do) and then measure from armpit to cleavage. When I measure in this way, I get just under 15½" - and guess what the depth of Meg is:
15.4"!!! Well, if that isn't perfect, I don't know what is!
On Bratabase, the Meg is listed as being the same shape as the Alexa (and thus Olivia etc), but I do notice some differences.
First up, it seems just slightly lower cut than Olivia - and mentioned, I have the Meg a cup size larger, and then we often see that the centergore is higher, but the oppesite seems to be the case here:
The smaller bra is a whole cm higher than the larger!
I did feel like the proportions of the stretchy vs. non-stretchy bits at the band was also done differently (as in, more non-stretchy on Meg) as well as improvement on seams, but it is difficult to compare an almost year-old bra with a brand new one.
Furthermore, even though it may seem only a matter of appearance, the top panel of Alexa/Olivia is plain, though with added lace on top of it. Whereas all Meg-versions has a small band of sheer contrasting fabric, meaning the top panel has actually been cut in 2. It might be minor, but I can't help but think it may have had a little bit to do with the way it fits:
BrasIHateAndLove also reviewed the Meg and while she of course had very different succes with it than me (being as she is deffinitely full on top, and I'm deffinitely full on bottom - in fact, it was due to the fact that we always had oppesite succes in bras that made me realize I must be the oppesite of her), but she noted that the meg seemed to be loose just above the seam - something that I also noted:
I don't know if the slightly different top-panel can be held accountable for this or not, but it's worth noting.
It could also be a result of recent tweaking of the design: Many have noted that the red Cleo Marcie seems to have a too tight seam, so perhaps this is a bit of an overcompensation of that?
If I am to question something about the fit of Meg (and really, we are talking of details here), I am still undecided on how snug the band really is on me. I try to blame my indecision on the fact that it's my only 2-hooked bra, thus it is more difficult to compare the feel of the band with my 3-hooked bras.
I feel like Cleo runs big all over, though, in the band as well, and I can pull it out quite far rather easily:
But, it doesn't ride up, and it's deffinitely tacking, and looking at the pictures of the hooks, it certainly looks like they are tight, even though it doesn't feel as such as all (this might be bacause the wonderful wide seams, making no point take consideradbly more pressure than others).
So, the only thing where I feel I could improve with a slightly snugger band, is in terms of really holding in my scooped tissue - with rather tight bras, I only have to scoop once, maybe twice in the whole day, and then it just stays in: The tight band keeps the wires tacking at the armpits as well. But, here, I have to scoop rather often, unless I wear it on it's tightest setting, which I'd rather not for a brand new bra. It's good that it has an adequate width, then, or I would be scooping all day!
Speaking of tacking, this being my most tacking bra, which feels awesome and stable! But, that reveals another minir issue: There is only space for one wire between my boobs! So, the wire of my smaller, right boob sits nicely in the middle, whereas the left bigger boob gets a bit too friendly with the wire. You could see this clearly in Olivia:
and you can see it from the slight wire-imprint that I get in Meg:
|The left side (in the picture) of the imprint is smack in the center of my cleavage: The right side is sitting on my boob|
But, this is really minor!
So, all in all, this is by far my best fitting bra!
So that certainly confimrs BraIHateAndLove's suggetion that this will work for softer boobs, with less volume on top, which pretty accurately discribes my top-boobs. For the bottom, I'd say if you are more full-on-bottom than me, you might run into problems with this, as I felt like I was the most full-bottom it could take.
Now, I will keep an eye on who else this fits well, and take all their other bra suggestions as gospel :b