Bra fitting on a fat body

Recently, I have become aware that bra fitting is not just that – it can be very different from body to body. Eliza at bratabase recently made a post about “Bra fittingfor the overweight or pendulous”, and we have both talked of bra fitting for the overweight on several occasions at bratabase, as have others (if you are not on bratabase yet, sign up! :D It’s a great resource!) 

I also noticed that Georgina also addressed some fit issues that will be different from body to body: One is straps digging in, as she says: “the straps should take 20% of your breast weight and 20% of my breast weight is a hell of a lot!” And also, squishy shoulders will be squished, even if it was a light weight that they carried.  She also addresses back-fat, which is quite relevant – even for someone as smooth as her. I am not that smooth, so now I will address back fat and bands from my point of view: 

So, I want to talk about something that has been a problem for me a lot here in my bra journey. Band. A lot of bra fitting just doesn’t seem to work for me. For example, the difference between a tight, snug or loose measurement is not so clear defined. Part of the reason for that may be that for a lot of women, it doesn’t actually make that much of a difference. If they land on an uneven number, they can just round up or down depending on if the measurement was loose or tight. But for me, and many bigger ladies, I am sure, the difference is between 28.5” and 35.5”. That could mean 5 different band sizes! So what to do? I usually put down 33.5” as my measurement, because that is what I get if I measure just about as tight sock or panties, which is probably a good reference. And it can’t be said enough, bras should be determined of fit, not just the numbers. So on we go to look at how a band is supposed to fit:

 Here the problem starts: My back will never look like that. A band will never fit like that on me. Bra advice tells us “the band should lie flat on your back”, but what if my back is just no flat? It is difficult to see on a soft back, how a band doing any work could possibly not dig in. 

^These are lableld as too tight bands, because they dig in, and create those bulges. But again, a lot of plus size women will always have bulges, it’s not the bras fault, and a looser band certainly wont make it any better. When ever I naively walk up to a fitter, they often tell me that I need a much larger band, because “oh, isn’t it painful when it is digging in that much?” and they’ll say that even if I am wearing loose, loose bands. What they don’t seem to realize is, that those bulges aren’t bra-bulges, they are the natrual shape of a body with rolls. But I bet there aren’t many of those in bra-school.

Another very important thing about how a band looks on a larger women, is also the fact that a lot of weight is put on the band: On a slim woman, a too loose band with a lot of weight on, would probably fall down, if not held up by the straps. On a woman with a belly, or a stubborn underbust roll like me, the bra cannot fall down, and instead “rests” on the top of the belly, and will then look like it is strained on the body, because there is put so much preasure on it from the weight, rather than by the tightness.

And now I’ll show you why I always look like my band is digging in. I have to say, I didn’t think I would volentarily have pictures of my rolls anywhere, but hey, in the name of bra education (of which I care very much), here we go.  First up is how I look without a bra: You can clearly see what I mean about “bra bulges” with no bra! And also forementioned underbust roll. Next up is how 36, 34 and 32 bands look on me, both without the strain of weight, and with it. So here we go:

No bra

36 band with my boobs lifted, so no weight is putting pressure on the band

36 band with weight on

34 band with boobs lifted, so no weight is putting pressure on band

34 band with weight on

32 band with my boobs lifted, so not weight is putting pressure on band

32 band with weight on

For the 36band, at the front, you can really see the difference between having weight on the band or not: Again, because the band is not giving any support, all the weight is put on my roll – this really makes it look like it is very very tight at the front, even though the oppesite is the case.
On the 34band it is clear how the band riding up slightly, means that it sits exactly at the my back roll, making it look like it digs in – and this is even exagerated when the weight is put on. So here it is easy to imagine, that a smaller band that doesn’t ride up, will actually eliminate some of the bra-bulges!
Also on the 32band, you see that when the weight is put on, everything just get’s more squished, but much less than with the 36 for example. What is interesting, is that there is no more back fat than there was with the 36 or no bra: So it is a myth that the tightness of the band causes the back fat.

So, what is the conclusion? The look of the right fit can be very different for fat women vs slim women, so we can’t always rely on those handy fit-pictures and advice. Fitters, or people who fit themselves, must learn to know what is supporting, rather than what matches the picture, because fact is, if you look nothing like the picture to start with, a bra cannot make it match up. Look for wide, firm bands, with wide elastic at the edges. And notice how much difference there is whether your weigh it down or not – I think that can be a good trick.

I can also tell you, that just yesterday, I wore my Ewa Michalak Onyks without the straps, and the mark from the band would make it seem it was much much tighter than normally - so I guess this proves my theory that weight, not tightness, can put a lot of strain on the band, making it look like it is tight.

All in all, I know this was not a too long post word-wise, but I hope the pictures speak for themselves, and can give a more size-varied view of bra fitting :D

Next post will probably be about bratabase and a few words about my recent order (very few words, because it is not too fair to properly review a bra that I got in the wrong size)

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My bra journey: Shape!

I've hinted at my bra journey earlier, but to give you an idea:

I don't really know when I got breasts, though I think it was earlier than my peers: I remember my mom begged me to wear bras, and I despised them!
2004: I have a vague memory of talking bras with a friend when I was 12-13 and I said I was a C, even though my friends guessed me to be a D. I came to identify with being big busted.
2006: I was distraught when I lost 24kg when I was around 14-15 and my boobs went, so I padded my bras like crazy, though I quickly stopped as I was found out, so instead I just stopped to think of boobs.
2008: When I was 16, I moved to US, and when shopping with a relative, I said I found it hard to shop for tops, because I often ended up looking flat chested. This made my relative laugh and say it would take an illusionist for me to look flat chested. So off to get 38DD's at Victoria's Secret. This was probably the worst time for my boobs: I was very physical active at that time, and my back was killing me. I was so ashamed that I had to wear a sports bra for even light activity, and I was restrained from a lot of things because of bra discomfort.
2009: When I moved back to Denmark, my VS bra was literally falling to pieces (as pictured: yes, that is yarn and a key-chain I had used to stick it back together. And the lines at the band is where the hem is supposed to be),

so I reluctantly went to a very good fitter, who showed me how to put on a bra etc, all sorts of good things that changed my "bra experience" But when it came to the size she proclaimed me: "32GG?! You must have lost your mind!", I said, and walked out with a 38DD
2010: My 38DD's needed replacement (also, weight gain), and this time I dared to try some other sizes. Ended up with 36E's (didn't understand sister sizes, so in my world, this was up a cup)
2011: Bras needed replacement again(more weight gain). This time I went for 36FF (this is the highest size you can find in Denmark, except at Change Lingerie) and 36G (Change Lingerie). Started to think of myself as "busty".
2012: With my new status as busty, I wanted more bras. So I went out and got some 34F's and 36FF's. I wanted strapless clothing like I had seen on the blogs, and in early March, I asked a question on Y!A about strapless bras in what I thought was my size. Angela from there, linked me to reviews done by FullerFigureFullerBust, and I learned many new things about bras (UK sizing was a very important step in my epiphany!) . This was also at the same time where Change Lingerie dared to offer EU K-cups (UK H-cups). Went and got a 34H and 36GG, as pictured (Note, these pictures are taken on the day I got them, so this is what I was fitted to, and I thought was a good fit):

I signed up for Bratabase, and in April I placed my first order online, 34HH's, 34H's, 36GG and 36H's, from Curvy Kate. I tried the 34HH  Daily Boost, and it seemed too small, and I was mortified and amused. Kept the Thrill Me in 36GG  and Tease Me  in 34H. (it is so weird to see my old reviews, and see just how clueless I was of how a good fit should be!)

And from then on, I have studied bras so much, and I have placed many orders, and returned almost everything. I still need to find better bras, but my current best bras are two plunges in  34JJ's and a balcony in 36H from Ewa Michalak and Masquarade Rhea Bra in 36H. I still need to learn a lot about bras and my breasts, before I can get the right fit (which is hard with breast re-migration and weight changes!), but here is the newest step for me:

I have realised what my shape is! For a long time, I thought I was "full on top", because in too small bras, or push ups, my breasts would easily be pushed up to my collarbones. Now I think that has more to do with the placement of my bust: It is pretty high up. Also, because I have fat everywhere on my body, my collarbone area also has a layer of fat, so when my breasts were pushed up, they would also push together all the fat on my upper-chest, making it seem like I had that high of a cleavage.
No, I believe I have "full on bottom"-breasts. I have to give BrasIHate a lot of credit when it comes to figuring the importance of your breast shape. She has full on top breasts, and I soon realised that bras that were excellent on her, were shite on me (Masquerade Rhea, for example), and that the issues she seemed to have never bothered me.
Another thing that made me think of that my breasts probably aren't full on top, was the fact that I never got this look:

That "crease" at the top of the boob. I've seen skinny women, and fat women, small busted and large busted ladies with it, so that led me to think it is a question of shape, rather than size and body. Whereas I always just have that "sloping" curve going down to my boob. Even if I wear a too small push up bra, that sloped curve is just moved up.
Most of all, what made me realise that I was full on bottom, was look at the fit issued such shape would cause, and realising that is exactly what I experience with every single bra I've failed with:

On picture 1, you see my breast shape (pretty accurately, actually). On picture 2, you can see how that is just not compatible with the bra. And on picture 3 and 4 you see the most common outcomes this causes:
Picture 3 shows the very common "Orange in a glass" effect: The bottom of your breast is too large (could be both width and forward volume), and cannot settle in the bottom of the cup. This forces the bra to sit a bit lower, so the bottom if not filled, but the top may seem right or create a bit of overspill, because part of the cup is now not in use, and therefore too small. As seen here in my Ewa Michalak in 36H, and the previously reviewed Moulin Rouge:

Picture 4 is one I haven't heard talked much about, but one I suffer from a lot! It is often in the combination of a big band, I believe. The large bottom of the breast, forces the bra to be tipped over, allowing a bit more room for the breast to settle. This of course messes up the fit of the cup. It means the centre gore cannot lay flat, as it is tipped away, and so is the rest of the cup. This means that there will actually be a lot of gaping at the top of the cups as well: The smaller upper part of the breast is already having a hard time filling the top, and when it is tipped away, there is no contact. This can of course be very confusing, because a centre gore sticking out is usually a sign of a too small cup, but the cups can gape so much, making us think it is too big! Also, the sides may rest a bit on tissue too, because they can't reach all the way back when the bra is pushed away. Here it is shown in my Masquerade 36H and Ewa Michalak 34JJ: (I also experience that the bra seem to "collapse" under my heavy breasts, further seeming to tipping over the bra) (apologies for lousy pictures, it is rather difficult to show on photos)

Also, a picture of the Ewa Michalak when it was new, so the band was tighter, and my boobs were smaller:

Here it is also clear, that I have much more volume on bottom than on top: My heavy breasts weigh the bra down, but my top-shallowness makes the top section sort of close on top of my breasts.

So, now that we have found the root of the problem, what can be done? I don't know. I will try to look for bras that look too have more space at the bottom, maybe like this wide-bottomed wire from Gok Wan, as reviewed at FulleFigureFullerBust. (If you scroll down to Geroginas friend in the bra, from the side) You can see that the wire almost has a corner, because it is pretty much as wide at the bottom, as on top. Most bras have more round shape of the wire, so it is significantly narrower at the bottom. This only comes up to a G-cup, so I am out of luck, but if any full on bottom ladies fits that range, maybe you could try it out, and tell me if I am correct in my guess that this would be a good wire shape?

I read a lot of places, that you should look for bras that are more closed at the top, to fit the bottom heavy shape (so often those with an upper section with perhaps a ribbon on top), but, if you are like me, you want those open top bras! And I believe it can be done.
I have tried the Tease Me, The Demi Diva (as I also discussed in another post) and the Rococo Charm, which will all give a similar shape to the Masquerade Rhea bra, but are more fit for bottom heavy breasts, I believe (though they are limited in cup sizes: The Demi Diva and Rococo Charm come up to HH, and the Tease Me comes in sister sizes of a 30J). Here is a little sketch comparing their shapes to the Rhea bra: (rhea in blue, the others in purple):

On the Rhea bra, the top of the cup is the fullest part of the curve, and if you try to draw a circle following the silhouette of the bra, you'll see that the fullest part is yet to come: This is why it is good for full on top breasts. On the other silhouette, if you follow the curve, the fullest part is in the bra, just as would be the case with bottom heavy breasts. Unfortunately, I don't fit any of these bras I've just suggested, but now I know what to look for! And I hope you do too.

At Bratabase, you can search by tag, and find some bras that have fit others with the shape you searched for. I can't seem to search more than one shape at a time, so it is a bit tedious work to cross reference the results of "Full on bottom", "close boobs" and "high on chest", while also finding some that come in the right size, but I have just made a big order of bras, and I hope I can soon post some recommendations for you with similar breasts on this blog!
Also, when I get these bras, I will post on the next big fit issue I have: Bands! So look out for that! ;)

Sleeping bra: Alisha by Panache

I've been looking for a sleeping bra for some time now, my requirements mainly being price and size. I wanted a bra that was slightly too big for me, because I did not want to sleep in anything tight, and when I am already at the outer limit for most bras, that was a bit of difficult task. But I found Alisha at Bravissimo on sale for £21.50, so I gave it a go.

Why do I need a sleeping bra, you may ask? For 2 reasons: One being that I like to sleep on my stomach. No problem there. No, the problem starts when I turn to lay on my side: Often my boob will be squished under my body as I turn, which results in an uncomfortable pulling of my boob. So I figured a bra would help them keep closer to my body, and follow me as I turn.
Next reason being that I volunteer at camps several times a year. Which means that I share a room with the other volunteers, we often hang out for a while after we have gotten ready for bed, and I also sometimes have to go in my PJ to make sure the students are sleeping etc. Which means, I don't want my boobs all over the place, a bit of lift and control would be much appreciated. 

So, that brings us to Alisha in 36J. 

One thing that certainly suprised was that it in fact was not extremely big in the cup. When I placed this order, I got 34H and 34HH's, so I really expected a 36J to drown me. Therefore, I redid my measurements on bratabase, and it seems my breasts have gotten bigger somehow. I've also lost 5kg, so I don't really know where it is coming from. Perhaps breast migration? It was only last summer I still bought 36F's, and since the bras I wear now (though not good fit for me) are 34H, 36H and 34JJ, perhaps some breast got back where it was supposed to be?* 

Anyways, back to Alisha: I would have prefered the straps to be more in the sides of the cups than they are, to catch any sideboob, but I guess for sleeping, too wide-set straps could be uncomfortable too, so I am not actually that bothered. You can see on this photo that the straps looks to dig in a bit, but since I will be laying down most of the time in this bra, the weight will be taken off, so I am not actually that bothered. I could also loosen the straps more than they are here, which means this bra can actually both give a quite good shape as seen here, yet still be very comfortable. 

The material is 98% cotton, and quite thick, it may actually get a little hot for summer nights, but it is quite soft and comfortable. I also find the color and design quite sleep-appropriate. 

Obviously, this doesn't give the shape that you get from underwired bras. You can see here that it is quite "natrual", as it doesn't give a big lift (you can see here my boobs are actually lower that the band), and it doesn't make round orbs on the front of your chest. Again, I think this is good for sleeping: I don't want something that screams that I am wearing a bra, so this is a slightly improved natural look ;) 

The band has 7 sets of hooks at the back, so even though 36 is definitely too big for me, you can get a lot of different band lengths in here.

Now, what you all must have been thinking: MONOBOOB! It does go in slightly at the center, so if you are wearing a loose T-shirt, you will get the tip of 2 boobs rather than one poking at the shirt, but it wouldn't take much for the monoboob to show. Because this is for sleep only, I don't mind the appearance of it too much. What I do mind though, is that it may be too warm for my boobs to be squished together. So I took to some sowing to wrinkle up the center gore, creating a bit more depth of the cups:

It didn't do quite as big a difference as I thought it would. I only did it to the bottom half, but I may go ahead and do it all the way up. However, it did allow some air between my boobs, so it is still and adjustment I am glad I made. 

I have slept it in a couple of time now, and I have to say, it works for the purposes it was intended for. Also, on a lazy sunday, it is not so unsupportive that I can't wear it around the house, so I am quite impressed that a loose banded non-wired bra could actually work so well, so points to Panache for this one, despite the monoboob!

(*Something that also made me realize that my boobs must have grown was my reordering of the Demi Diva in 34HH: In April, I returned it because I thought the wires were too wide, but now I just reordered it, as I remembered it to be a good fit: Not anymore:

Moulin Rose by Bravissimo

I recently ordered several bras from Bravissimo, and I will review some of those for you! (some of them were so far off size-wise, it is not worth reviewing)

First one up is the Moulin Rose by Bravissimo in 34HH!

 Gorgeous bra! I hadn’t caught online that it was printed lace, rather than actual lace, but that is fine, it makes it a little less serious. It is a beautiful bra, no doubt about that! The pink velvet ribbons at the edge of the cups continue up the wide, supportive straps (which means it is only fully adjustable if you are very insistent) 
It feels like good quality. The padding is thick enough to definitely make it very “firm” when wearing it, but less thick as in a lot of other padded bras. Even the delicate things like bows and lace trim seems sturdy. The band at the gore and at the bottom of the cup is un stretchy, and the back band is sheer and wide. The straps continue into the band and down to the clasp.

Now, it is described as a half-cup, but it covers way more than I would expect a half-cup to cover. The center gore comes up higher than I’ve ever had a bra come up, and then the cups goes horisontally from there. This is not necessarily a bad thing, I am just a little unsure of how it is actually supposed to look when it is the right fit. I have to say, in these pictures from the front, it looks quite awesome on me! (the flash makes it difficult to see, but the center is not touching: There is about room for my thumb there)





 However, the bottom of the cups are very shallow, which does not fit my natural shape, nor the shape I am looking for in a bra. (I want my breasts to cover as little an area on my chest as possible, and lots of forward projection!) It gave me a bit of “orange-in-a-glass”-effect, and also flattened my breasts. The flatter bottom can give a bit of push-up, but to me that just seemed weird in a bra that covers so much. As I said, I can’t quite decode what shape this bra is supposed to create.  Added to that, it was too small for me, so the push-up effect just created overspill for me. It is difficult to see from the front, but you can see that not all of the lace is standing up straight, because my breast-tissue is pushing it down. Also, from the side view the rather weird shape becomes more obvious (finger placed to point out the start of the “orange-in-a-glass”)

Not even in a sports bra does my boobs look this flat! The bottom ½-1" is not filled

I think even if this was available in 34J, it would sadly just not be the shape for me ):

I think this bra would work well for full on top breasts, who wish a bit off pushed up but not cleavage-y look. And it is a georgeous and comfortable bra, so if you think there is a chance this shape could be something for you, I would recommend you to get it! I can also see that the reviews it has gotten on Bravissimo are all good, so maybe it is just me!

Go to bratabase to see the measurements for this bra (:

(If there is anything more you would like to know about this bra, please just ask, I check for comments very often, so I can answer you before you purchase it!)

Biubiu review!

So, as promised, here is my review of my first order from Biubiu! Even though it didn’t all work out, I am really impressed, and hopefully this won’t be my last order!

First up, the Fado tops! I ordered 2 colors, Orange and Lazur!

 (wow, I am impressed by how good I am at copying the way I stand!)
I ordered these in 44BBB which fits 87-91cm waist, and 116-120cm bust (and 11-115cm hips) I measure just about 86.5cm waist and 125cm bust, and 127cm hips, so this wasn’t a spot on size, and I think that too was reflected in the fit. Even though right at my narrowest point, I do fit in the size for waist, I have “extra padding” above and below this point, so it ended up being too snugger than intended, if you compare to the fit on the website:
 

 Also, the bust was too small, you can see that it covers less on me than on the models: because my bust is wider, the wrap over is pulled further apart. Also, the ‘empire’ cut is supposed to fit right under the bust, and it didn’t on me, as you can see here, where I’ve marked where the bottom of my bra is (an Ewa Michalak plunge, so I would think that it is similar to the bras the models are wearing) Due to my tan-line, you can also see that this is a good bit lower than I normally wear, even when sun-bathing!

Now, despite it being a wee bit snug, I decided to keep both of them: First up because I am desperate for clothes that even almost fit, and because I actually really like fitted clothes, and since these ones stirred clear of my 2 biggest problems with tighter tops:
The back. There is nothing worse than finding a top that beautifully defines the waist when you see the front, but then shows of all your back-rolls (this is my main-problem with wearing waist-belts!) but magically, this top didn’t do that at all!:

 
About as concealed as they can be! If I was to say which of these tops were tighter, I would say the blue is perhaps. Maybe it is just because the color is brighter, and there for more noticeable, but in pictures like this, it seems it is a bit more tight (or maybe I am just twisting a bit here? Idk)

Problem #2: Sitting down! When ever I feel really good about myself, I sometimes want to wear really tight tops.. until I sit down. Then there is always some muffin top that needs to be concealed, and tight tops usually just can’t do it. But look at these tops!:

 Passed that test with flying colors! (of course it won’t look as good as when standing up straight, but I will show you how bad it could have been later!)

I am very impressed how well this top worked, even when it is a size too small all over!

And it gets more points: Look at the pictures from the back again. Notice something else that is different from most sleeveless tops? The arm-wholes go all the way up to the armpit! All sleeveless tops seems to think we want to expose half our side through the arm-wholes (or, for us bigger busted ladies, half our bra-side, as the arm-whole is pulled horizontally by our bust!) Another point to Biubiu for actually thinking about this! And since we are in that area, the straps are great, wide enough to cover our wider bra straps, but the metal-clasp makes it look elegant, rather than “practical”. Btw, the metal clasp can be pushed up or down, depending on what shape you want of the wrap over front, and they don’t slide on their own. Another good point!
So, all in all, excellent tops, even when a tad too small for me!

I wore the orange one out shopping, and the sales lady kept offering me Medium clothes, even though the store had up to 2XL, so I take it that it must have looked good on me!






 Next up, the Toscana Azure! I had really really looked forward to this one, I love the neck-line, and the flared out bottom-half, and the sleeves are longer than cap-sleeves, but still not ¾ sleeves which I am bombarded with normally! So I really wanted this one to work for me, but oh, not this time…

Just as with the Fado tops, it had all the sign that I needed to size up in this, if you compare the intended fit and my fit:

  Here you can especially tell that my big hips play a big part in the fit. This top is quite long (I am 173cm / 5’8½” ) and had it been any longer, it would more of a tunic than a regular T-shirt.
The fabric is quite thin, and a little bit see-through if it is stretched. I am wearing the Rhea bra, where the top of the cups are brown/gold, and the rest is light blue, and you can see the color difference even on my poor-quality picture here. It is not so bad, but to me it just confirmed that this is too tight. There is a double layer along the neckline, and it is about 5cm wide, and I felt like you could see my cleavage through the shirt where the double-layer ended, so maybe there should have been double all the way? Or maybe a bigger size would have solved such issues.

I think the thin-ness of the fabric would make it an excellent summer T-shirt, nice and breezy, but this also means that contrary to the Fado tops, a too small size just won’t do.

Problem #1: The back:
I showed you an example of a good fit for the back before. Here is a bad one:

 Not good! And you can also see that the sleeve is too tight. I think even if I sized up, it would be a tad bit tight still, but I can live with that, as I know that my arms really are very big, so it is not the shirts fault ;)

Problem #2: Sitting down:

  No good either. This kind of thin, stretchy fabric just won’t do when it is too tight. So despite this one being my dream T-shirt in terms of design, I had to return it.

Next up is…. The Paris Noir dress!

And oh… Oh, how I loved this! Quite unexpected, I only got this because Biubiu told me it would fit bigger hips (and as you can see, my hips butt/belly are taking full advantage of the pleats!). I thought it was too nice for an everyday dress, and too boring for a club-dress, but when I tried it on, I wanted to wear it for both!

 I will reveal right off, it is too small, all over, but especially on the bottom half. If this is the most bottom-friendly type they have, I fear my butt will not be very happy with biubiu. In this one, I don’t think I could sit down, and it would obviously still be tight in a 46, but none the less, I would get it, because it felt and looked sooooo goooooood!!
Even though it was also too tight on my bust and back, it still looked amazing:

 
I looooooooooooove how fitted it is over the bust, underbust and down to the waist. Even when it was too tight (I am wearing a quite un-lifting bra here, and yet the dress was so tight, it lifted my boobs regardless :b ) it just looked so sharp and tailored! For sure a larger busted lady could never dream of a look like this, from anywhere but a company like Biubiu!

There is an un-stretchy lining, but the waist band seems to be a bit tighter than that, and the rest of the dress is a little bit stretchy, so that is why it cuts in a bit. This would hopefully look even better in the right size. But wow, this, I have never had anything fit like this. I nearly cried having to return it. My mother suggested keeping it, as inspiration for a weightloss, but I don’t want to be beating myself up about not being able to fit it. If I do loose weight, I will get it again. Or, if it is offered in 46BBB, I will be first in line to order it! Also, note that it is not very dark-black. Here I obviously used some flash, which makes it lighter, but still, it is more like a very dark grey, imo.

(I also ordered the Fuego Violet in 42BBB as it was the last size, but it is clear that I would not be able to fit it, so I didn’t bother unpacking it)

Even though I did not get all the things I wanted from this Biubiu order, I now know what size I would be: 46BBB. Unfortuneatly, that is a size they don’t always order, and also one that is sold out quickly when they do (actually, everthing is sold out quickly. Biubiu, please have bigger stock!) Now that I know my size though, I will be less hesitant to order, so maybe I can get in there before they sell out! I also recently saw that Biubiu wrote to someone on facebook that they could request a size, so I may just do that next time I see something I must own!


Currently, I have my eye on Arles, Fado Black, Fuego Black, Etna, Alanya, Indigo City (what! Reintroduced? But I can't select sizes), Liverpool Honey, Ponti Green and more to come, I am sure!